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⠀⠀⠀￰⠀⠀⠀I have an old puzzle I half-remember.

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀It was a great puzzle, and I remember the solution.

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀I could not for the life of me remember how the solution worked.

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀I must have been forgetting part of the question...

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀Well, here's my attempt at posting the riddle.

There were once three men at an old mostly wooden castle. The first only dreamt of silver and gold. The second only smoked English cigarettes, and the third had a sister with silver hair. One of them, unfortunately, was a habitual liar. When the neighboring castle burned down, the first said that he had seen a masked man light the house aflame with gasoline. The second had witnesses the fire start from the top of the castle to the bottom. The third, being the lead investigator, found a lamp in the basement of the ruined castle. Who is the liar, who committed the crime, and how did the crime occur?


⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀EDIT: I noticed that this question was marked as a duplicate.

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀But, the duplicate linked has nothing to do with this! What's going on?

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀(for those intent on solving the puzzle, the whole question is valid information)

Dupe

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closed as off-topic by Omega Krypton, Brandon_J, JMP, Peregrine Rook, Alconja Apr 2 at 23:01

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    $\begingroup$ so this is actually a puzzle instead of a meta issue? $\endgroup$ – Omega Krypton Apr 2 at 1:58
  • $\begingroup$ Nope. Definitely not intended for Meta. $\endgroup$ – user45266 Apr 2 at 2:30
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    $\begingroup$ It’s still April 1 somewhere!! $\endgroup$ – Peregrine Rook Apr 2 at 3:48
  • $\begingroup$ @PeregrineRook In the area that I was in at the time of posting, it was posted on April 1st :) $\endgroup$ – user45266 Apr 2 at 3:51
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    $\begingroup$ Possible duplicate of Why is my question off-topic? $\endgroup$ – Mukyuu Apr 2 at 12:59
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An initial disclaimer:

I'm aware this is an april fools but lets give it a shot anyway.

We have:

There were once three men at an old mostly wooden castle. The first only dreamt of silver and gold. The second only smoked English cigarettes, and the third had a sister with silver hair.

And will assume this gives us:

Wooden castle - handy for burning. Smoked English cigarettes- Cockney rhyming slang for cigarettes is an 'oily'. Only dreamt of silver and gold - the other man's sister has silver hair and oil is known as liquid gold. So this man dreams of one of his companions and the other companions sister.

Conclusion so far:

Clearly we have a love triangle here! No.1 dreams of No.2 and No.3's sister.

On with the rest:

One of them, unfortunately, was a habitual liar. When the neighboring castle burned down, the first said that he had seen a masked man light the house aflame with gasoline. The second had witnesses the fire start from the top of the castle to the bottom. The third, being the lead investigator, found a lamp in the basement of the ruined castle.

So..

Okay, we've got one liar in those three statements. Statements 1 and 3 are either inconsistent or No.1 was in the basement of the castle when he saw the masked man. So that leaves 2 as the truth (we will assume) so we've got the fire starting top to bottom and so pointing to 3 as the false statement. (Also 3 claiming to be the 'lead investigator' when he could be implicated stinks of habitual lying).

With that we can conclude:

No.1 did see a masked man light the house with gasoline so it can't have been him. No.2 said he had witnesses but is attempting to distance himself by saying he wasn't there in person. Add onto this that the neighbouring castle actually belonged to the family of No.3 and that No.2's relationship with No.1 was threatened by No.3's sister...this leaves only one possible explanation.

Who is the liar

No.3 is the liar

who committed the crime

No.2 to get rid of No.3's sister

and how did the crime occur?

No.2, masked, crept over in the night with a can of gasoline.

And so I leave you with:

The only possible explanation

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Happy April Fools Day!

Solution given below.

You have probably all noticed that something wasn't right about the question. For those who didn't realise, this question isn't a duplicate at all. I used a variety of tricks to pull off this illusion. The real question was why the question was a dupe, and the answer was - It wasn't!

I'll walk you through everything. For starters,

You may have noticed the [duplicate] in the title. In fact, this was part of the title itself, not the system's label. (Usually, including "[duplicate]" in the title is not allowed, but I replaced the lowercase l - as in library - with a capital I - as in Idaho.) It looks nearly identical, so do what you will with that loophole.

Also,

The "this question already has an answer here" blurb was actually an image that I put at the start of the question (I took a screenshot from an older dupe question). Unfortunately, that means the link wouldn't work, but I didn't have any better ideas.

The clues from the body of the post:

I wrote cryptically in an attempt to distract audiences, but I also used invisible unicode characters to offset all the text, for the system usually marks dupes with a little indentation on the entire question. That's also the reason all of my sentences were one line or less!

On to the puzzle itself:

The puzzle was written with no intended solution. Sorry, guys, but I wanted it to be challenging enough to distract the audience from my trickery. If anyone can come up with a good solution, though, I might award a bounty!

The edit, of course:

The edit wasn't really an edit, as those who saw the revision history noticed. I simply wrote "EDIT" (the edit is asking the real question in the puzzle: why it's marked as a dupe).

And,

The "Marked as Dupe by Rand al'Thor" blurb is also an image, taken from another question. I also changed it to read "9 days" by splicing images of older questions together.


I apologize for all the rollbacks, but I had to keep the formatting correct. Also, the commenter who posted "possible dupe of (my own question)", that was brilliant. Thank you, Mukyuu, and also everyone who kept the secret and played along!

Happy April Fools Day!

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    $\begingroup$ I'm disappointed. I honestly thought this would've been a really good puzzle. $\endgroup$ – North Apr 2 at 20:28
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    $\begingroup$ You could have simply used "Possible Duplicate: [line break] target" in quote markup to produce a fake duplicate link. That style was the way dupe closures were handled prior to February 2013 (the Community user would edit the target link into the question body). $\endgroup$ – gparyani Apr 4 at 22:46

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