# Poisoned Glasses on a Platter

Three identical, mute triplets, $$F$$, $$S$$, and $$T$$, each of whom is a perfect logician, have been kidnapped. Their captor begins by instructing them that in a room that they will shortly enter, are six wine goblets, three of which contain normal wine, and three of which are poisoned. The poison is such that once even a drop is drunk, ten seconds later, they will die; but is of course otherwise indistinguishable from the wine. They are told that each person must drink from one glass; they may choose to drink all of it, or just take a sip (and their survival does not depend how much they drink).

To make things more interesting, the captor takes $$F$$ into the room, and truthfully points out which three are poisoned. They leave the room. The platter on which the six wine glasses are on then spins an unknown amount.

1. $$F$$ enters the room, selects a glass, and drinks all of its contents. You know that $$F$$ fully drunk the glass, while the others do not.

2. After enough time for the poison to take effect (if $$F$$ had been poisoned), $$S$$ enters the room, sees if $$F$$ is alive or dead, selects a glass, and either drinks all of or takes a sip from it.

3. After enough time for the poison to take effect (if $$S$$ had been poisoned), $$T$$ enters the room, sees if $$F$$ and $$S$$ are alive or dead, selects a glass, and either drinks all of or takes a sip from it.

Fifteen seconds later, exactly one person lies dead on the floor.

The state of the platter is shown below, where a white circle represents an empty glass, and a purple circle shows a full (or sipped-from) glass. Note how the glasses are in groups of two around the edge, these are indented to be equally spaced. Puzzle: Which triplet, $$F$$, $$S$$, or $$T$$, was poisoned?

There's no tag, it's a purely logical puzzle. So, you can assume that:

• no communication occurred
• the glasses are all identical
• the glasses' relative positions do not shift during the rotation
• each person has perfect logical capabilities and memory
• none of them are suicidal
• only $$F$$ saw the glasses
• you cannot tell the difference between a full and sipped-from glass
• when $$T$$ enters he is unsure if it was $$F$$ or $$S$$ who sipped and who emptied
• the glass were left in the positions they were taken from
• each person does not care if the others survive; they have no priorities other than surviving themselves

If in doubt, feel free to ask.

Puzzle created by me; I have the solution.

• @hexomino Forgive my art, it's intended to be equally spaced. Mar 8, 2019 at 10:18
• Ok, let me try to rephrase that: Is there a good reason for F to sip instead of emptying a goblet? Does having F sip not make it harder for S and T to deduce where the poisoned goblets are? Mar 8, 2019 at 10:31
• (continuation) Given the way the puzzle is written, it feels like $F$ has no choice. Then it would mean that the rules are not clearly explained to the three men. Mar 8, 2019 at 12:24
• What are the rules behind the people's actions? Must each person either drink or take a sip from each glass? Must the first person drink an entire glass? And if not, if they are indifferent to the survival of the other two, why would they choose to do so? (If that's not correct, what are the priorities of the three people?)
– Deusovi
Mar 8, 2019 at 12:27
• The rules are now clear, but there doesn't appear to be any reason why a given person would choose to drink all of a goblet vs merely taking a sip. If they're only concerned for their own well-being, they owe nothing to whoever comes after them. If, instead, it's an adversarial situation, they might well have good reason to sip rather than fully drink, if it denies the person(s) to follow them useful information. Since we know the end state we may have enough information already to figure out what happened, but it might matter, and it certainly feels incomplete to not know why sip vs not.
– Rubio
Mar 9, 2019 at 5:19

Consider the state of the glasses. They all lie in $$L$$-$$R$$ pairs. Three of them are poisoned. There are two options here: either all the glasses on the right (with parity $$R$$) are poisoned, or two of them are (this can be symmetrically generalized, so there are no other cases).

$$F$$ has been shown the positions of the poisoned glasses.

Regardless of which configuration they see, $$F$$ is going to choose, every time, a glass on the left. Logically speaking, there is either no chance, or 1/3 of a chance, for an $$L$$-glass to be poisoned, compared to 2/3 and certainty that an $$R$$-glass is poisoned.

At this point, $$F$$ may or may not be dead. We can now diverge, although we will find that divergence does not lead to many different paths.

$$S$$ now enters the room.

$$S$$, being a perfect logician, and knowing all that we know, sees $$F$$, whether dead or alive, and sees a single empty glass on the counter. He is also aware that $$F$$, and only $$F$$, knew which glasses were poisoned. If $$F$$ is dead, that means that 2 $$L$$-glasses were poisoned, and $$F$$ chose the one unlucky one. This also means that all remaining $$L$$-glasses are unpoisoned, and $$S$$ has no reason not to empty, or sip from, an $$L$$-glass.

If $$F$$ is not dead, then that means either case may hold - perhaps all $$L$$-glasses are unpoisoned, or perhaps only 2 of them are. If the former, then he has a 100% chance of surviving by drinking an $$L$$-glass. If the latter, then he has a 50% chance of surviving by drinking an $$L$$-glass. Regardless, all situations still beat choosing an $$R$$-glass, which maintain their old ratios. $$S$$ has no reason not to empty, or sip from, an $$L$$-glass.

Regardless of the outcome, an $$L$$-glass is chosen. We know from the diagram that there are two empties and one sip, and that the empties have different parities. Therefore, we can conclude that $$S$$ takes a sip of an $$L$$-glass.

At last, $$T$$ enters the room. This is where things become a bit more interesting.

At this point, there are several options in play, but at the same time, very few options in play. Unlike $$S$$, who knew everything we knew, $$T$$ does not know whether or not $$F$$ emptied the first glass, and this makes all the difference in particular. Notably, if he assumes that $$F$$ only took a sip, then that means $$S$$ would have come into a "full room", and therefore, $$T$$ cannot know whether or not $$S$$ survived by dumb luck.

If he assumes that $$F$$ drank a full glass, then he follows our original chain of deduction and realizes that he has either a 50% or 100% (if $$F$$ is alive, or dead, respectively) chance of surviving if he drinks a glass of the same parity as the one already emptied, and only a 33% chance for drinking an $$R$$-glass - i.e. he drinks an $$L$$-glass, regardless of whether $$F$$ and $$S$$ are dead or not. We know from the diagram that this is not the case, as the empty glasses are of different parities. Therefore, $$T$$ must proceed by assuming that $$F$$ took a sip.

If he assumes that $$F$$ only took a sip, then $$S$$ would have had to play a pure guessing game as to which glass parity is more poisoned. In this case, if $$F$$ is dead, then the poisoning is split 2-1, and if $$F$$ is not, then the poisoning is split either way, 3-0 or 2-1.

If $$F$$ is alive, and $$S$$ is alive, then it implies the one empty glass is likely to be on the side with either 2 safe glasses, or 3 safe glasses. Regardless, it's a high chance for $$T$$ to survive picking a glass of the same parity. Because this doesn't happen, we know that this isn't the case.

If $$F$$ is alive, and $$S$$ is dead, then the opposite is true, and $$S$$ likely stumbled upon the poisoned side; $$T$$ will pick a glass of the opposite parity.

If $$F$$ is dead, and $$S$$ is alive, nothing changes from the above answers; $$T$$ will still pick a glass of the same parity as the existing one.

Therefore, we can conclude that $$F$$ is alive, $$S$$ is dead, and $$T$$ drank the opposite wine-glass, and by dumb luck managed to survive.

Admittedly I'm very dissatisfied with my reasoning for $$T$$, mostly because I have been a bit lazy in crunching the numbers and therefore I'm not sure if $$T$$ would ever make the Sip Assumption - whether that results in a higher likelihood of survival. Indeed, the only reason I chose the answer I did is because the end result guided me towards the series of assumptions I made, and not any use of $$T$$'s perfect-logician-hood at all.

• Bravo. A very well-thought out answer, exactly along the lines I'd indented. I guess I was a bit lazy as well (if it wasn't already obvious), because I reasoned that it doesn't matter if $T$ would make the sip assumption, because we know that he did. I don't think you'll get much attention for this answer, which is a pity, so when it comes available, you can expect a bounty. Mar 10, 2019 at 1:03

I have to go now, so I'll just post this partial answer. Back soon.

First of all,

If $$F$$ had died, it would imply that the three poisoned glasses do not all share the same position in their respective couples (if all of them were the left one of the couple, just take one from the right and you will live). Therefore there would be, say, two "right" poisonous glasses and one "left". Let us call "$$+$$" a glass that has a probability of $$2/3$$ of being good and $$1/3$$ of being poisonous.

In that case,

To maximize his chances, $$F$$ would have chosen a $$+$$-glass, and, being unlucky, would have chosen the only wrong one. Therefore, if $$F$$ is dead and has chosen a "left" glass, then $$S$$ only needs to empty any other left glass, and $$T$$ will empty the last one, and they will both live.

Now first conclusion:

Since the empty glasses are not both on the same side (left/right), we know that $$F$$ is not dead.

• Are you making a (possibly incorrect) assumption that out of each pair, one of the glasses is poisoned? What if in a pair both glasses are poisoned, both glasses of another pair are good, and then the last pair is 1 and 1? Mar 8, 2019 at 16:41
• @PartyHatPanda I'm not making this assumption. What is unclear in what I wrote? Mar 8, 2019 at 17:22
• my mistake; After your response I re-read your first part. I was misunderstanding it is all! Mar 8, 2019 at 19:13