# Is it the crown that makes the king or, is it his throne? [closed]

This puzzle is quite literal so, rather than keeping it boring I dressed it up a little. The trivia question is in the frame:

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|In English custom;                                       |
|Is it the crown that makes the king or, is it his throne?|
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Clue #1

The ASCII art is not part of the question.

Clue #2

As stated in the introduction the question is literal.

Clue #3

Since this is Puzzling.SE, it is possible that the question contains misdirection.

Clue #4

Some (I will not say how many) of the existing answers may be getting onto the right trail.

Clue #5

Makes is an interesting word: cause (something) to exist or come about; bring about. But, don't be misled even though it is literal - we are talking about the king in the context of the question, not where he came from.

## closed as off-topic by GentlePurpleRain♦May 23 '18 at 18:21

• This question does not appear to be about creation and solving of puzzles, within the scope defined in the help center.
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• Hey there, Kilroy. – Ian MacDonald May 22 '18 at 14:00
• Voting to reopen as the OP has added 4 hints and an edit that help make the puzzle better specified. – Phylyp May 23 '18 at 6:08
• Voting to reopen as the solution seems very obvious and the question is well readable now – Gimli May 23 '18 at 6:15
• Voting to reopen, less broad now. – Chowzen May 23 '18 at 12:53
• I'm closing this question as off-topic because it is not a puzzle; it is simply a trivia question (based on the answer provided here). – GentlePurpleRain May 23 '18 at 18:21

I believe that we are literally talking about how to "Make" a king. Therefore,

you give birth to it.
A major step in the birthing of a king (or anyone else), is the CROWNING, as many kings are born into their position.

• This is my favorite answer. – TwoBitOperation May 23 '18 at 13:42

The Crown, I'm thinking that this refers to the game of Chequers and the act of crowning makes a king.

• Welcome to Puzzling.SE! Why do you believe that that's what the puzzle is referring to? – F1Krazy May 22 '18 at 15:39
• Only thing I could think of and also the way the question was framed. – Clarkey252 May 22 '18 at 15:41
• A fine answer but, unfortunately not literal enough. Those are metaphorical kings. – Willtech May 22 '18 at 22:10

So the question is literal, right? Perhaps the answer is simply:

No!

Because.

Kings aren't "made" by their throne or their crown, but rather in the same way every other person is "made".

• @noedne Thanks for editing the spoilers in. My phone just doesn't seem to like making them work. – DqwertyC May 23 '18 at 13:20
• Oh my goodness! A valiant attempt, I certainly did not foresee that one. Now, how the heck can I possible clarify the question better.. – Willtech May 23 '18 at 13:27

Going by the fundamental rule,

It is the base that determines, what you are / who you are - and hence it is the throne!. By the way, crowns can be mocked up whereas it is not an easy case with throne/s. Also, after climbing a throne, one usually gets declared as a king, but not necessarily be crowned.

• The point that this answer makes is getting closer. – Willtech May 23 '18 at 3:34

It is the crown (verb) that makes the king.
crown: to invest with a regal crown, or with regal dignity and power (in other words, to make someone king or monarch).
There is no verb 'to throne'

• It is true that the definition of the verb crown states that (the part in brackets is a source of much confusion). – Willtech May 22 '18 at 21:57

It's the crown because the only way we can see that the little character is indeed the king is that he is wearing a crown.

• A fine answer, however, the question is literal. Note also the trivia tag. – Willtech May 23 '18 at 3:33

If we happen to be talking about:

chess

then I'd say:

The throne, as a piece's type is determined by the square it is placed on to start. It is the QUEEN that traditionally represented by a crown.

Ok, attempt 2:

The crown as in English the crown often refers to the reigning monarchs themselves. Here the crown is referring to the king's parents (who would have been king and or queen at the time and refered to as "the crown")

2nd attempt

If we take it as litteral as possible I would then say

none of the two

because

in the case of the english monarchy, you become king immediatly after the previous king dies, before you get the crown or the throne

a famous exemple is

Edward I of England who became king during the 9th crusade while he was away

• A truely valiant attempt. Only missing the actual answer. – Willtech May 23 '18 at 20:40