# Logical Reasoning Triangle Puzzles

I am preparing for a job interview, where this kind of puzzles are given to all participants. I am struggling to find some logic in it. I would really appreciate any advice on how to approach this kind of puzzles.

The aim is to find a missing number (integer) an put it instead of the question mark.

Here are 2 examples I have been unsuccessfully trying to solve for 2 days.

1)

2)

• What are the rules? Apr 8 '17 at 16:43
• Just edited the question - The aim is to find a missing number (integer) an put it instead of the question mark in each puzzle
– BB-8
Apr 8 '17 at 16:45
• I gathered that much :) thought there might be something extra. Are we not given any other information? Apr 8 '17 at 16:46
• In a job interview, #2 is almost surely a challenge to see how you respond to an inadequately defined situation. They probably want you to ask questions at this point, to show that you know how to gather information, and to reassure them that you're not smarter than they are.
– humn
Apr 8 '17 at 17:10
• It probably also matters what job you're applying for, as you would expect some sort of domain knowledge or even potential to be tested. Triangle 1 is all primes, missing only 11, but it's out of order. Also, did you redraw these, or is this their actual shape? Apr 8 '17 at 17:52

I think humn's comment is probably very on-the-mark, puzzles generally make for poor interview questions (Oh, you made a out-of-the-box leap, you must be the ideal candidate for the job!) - the exceptions are (a) when the puzzle is a more comprehensible version of what the job will entail, while they do not require someone who already has experience of that very job and (b) when the puzzle is a tool designed to see how the candidate reacts to unfamiliar territory. In both the aforementioned cases the interviewer is most likely looking for how the candidate responds - they want you to both verbalise your thoughts and to ask pertinent questions. Here they may be impressed by someone asking about context. These look far more like (b) to me, if they provided othe fully-filled triangles they might be more like (a). The job itself may also hold clues to the kind of response the interviewer is after.

As a quantitative / developer type I would like to say $11$ and $2$...

For (1): Firstly all the numbers are prime, and $11$ is the only one missing from the list of the first six primes. Secondly in binary the leftmost of the rows have three bits set, the ones to their right have two bits set, and the only number with only one bit set is the bottom-right, this implies the top should have three bits set $11$ is 1101 and fits this patten too!

For (2): We have so little information we may as well keep it as simple as possible, lets look for a dyadic operation that is commonplace, commutative, and, of course, yields a single value for each pair-wise selection. Bitwise-and (let's use &) fits the bill: $2$ is 10 and $3$ is 11; now 10 & 10 = 10 and 10 & 11 = 10 (and 11 & 10 = 10 - it's commutative).

Obviously if they are hiring someone to draw technical diagrams or teach communication these answers may not be what they are looking for!

(I'm still in high school and I haven't had a job interview yet, but here are my two cents)

These types of puzzles have an extremely poorly defined structure. As such, such puzzles would be closed as "too broad" on PSE. There could be tons of technically valid solutions, so with nothing obvious, it is difficult to pinpoint which solution is "most valid". You struggle to find logic in these puzzles, and that's probably because there is little logic at all. For example, a solution to the first problem could be to find some crappy function that maps two of the inner integers to the adjacent integer at a corner, e.g. f(5, 13) = 7, f(3, 5) = 2, f(3, 13) = ?

Obviously, this leads to an infinite number of solutions. As for the second puzzle... Just WHAT? There is literally zero logic to apply here. Do they want the sum of the outer numbers? Their product? Their f(x, y, z)??? Whose idea was this? The fact that someone can call this a "puzzle" is sickening. It's a waste of time, and I seriously doubt it will be asked at an event as serious as a job interview.

The kinds of puzzles given in interviews, to my knowledge, have a completely different style, such as "John puts 20 ants on the left end of a long stick, moving right in a straight line. Mary puts 47 ants at the right end, moving left. When two ants collide, they both turn around. When an ant reaches the left end, John takes it. When an ant reaches the right end, Mary takes it. How many ants does John get, and how many collisions are there?" Or, "You and 50 prisoners are given a chance for freedom. The warden will lock everyone in separate cells with no chance at communication, and at random will pick a prisoner every so often to go to a room with two levers. The prisoner will flip one and only one lever, then go back to their cell. At any point, a prisoner may claim that everyone has visited the lever room. If the prisoner is wrong, everyone dies. If he is right, everyone lives. The prisoners are given an hour to strategize. What's the plan?" etc. They have an obvious goal in mind, with no guessing, and after that it's pure thinking. Much more elegant than those crap "viral" number puzzles often appearing on the internet.

As a stab at #1 :

6
=   =
13   3
-     X
7 = 5 + 2

I can't think of any other way this would make sense

For #2, the trivial:

might work.

• I fixed it up for ye Apr 8 '17 at 16:55
• Mobile. Ugh. :)
– Rubio
Apr 8 '17 at 16:59
• Actually yeah that looks much nicer :P Apr 8 '17 at 16:59
• Yeah, this solution crossed my mind too, but I thought it to be harder. Badly I wasn´t given a solution sheet.
– BB-8
Apr 8 '17 at 17:06