# Cipher Ciphe Ciph

"What is this?", he asked himself.

Looking at the paper, it read "Amw ytc xffu tx honzarz vmghers."

He then turned the paper the other way, and found this:

Cipher. | A | The first letter.

You wish to find it. | piece | The last letter too, is that better?

Ciphe. | of | The middle letter of newsletter,

You wish to find i. | useless | The set (i.e two obvious words) of words in pacesetter.

Ciph. | text | Do that

You wish to find. | ? | And you're done!

Can you help him?

• What is the set of words in pacesetter?? Pacesetter has like 50 odd words in it...
– Sid
Commented Sep 16, 2016 at 12:24
• @Sid "Pacesetter" is made up of a very clear set of words. Don't look around for every single word you can make using this combination of letters. Commented Sep 17, 2016 at 20:15
• Pacesetter may be Secret Tape.
– user27395
Commented Sep 18, 2016 at 8:16
• @ArkaKarmakar What secret tape? Commented Sep 18, 2016 at 13:25
• @ArkaKarmakar You mean whether you're on the right track? That I can't tell you unless I know your line of reasoning. Commented Sep 18, 2016 at 17:26

Solution:

You are good at solving ciphers

Explanation:

The cipher used is a Vigenere cipher with the key cycycyrrrrtepacesetteraaaa.

How to build the key:
1) Clue #1: "The first letter." - Add every first letter of each line, i.e. cycycy
2) Clue #2: "The last letter." - Add every last letter of each line, i.e. rrrrte
3) Clue #4: "The set (i.e two obvious words) of words in pacesetter.". - Just add pacesetter
4) Clue #5: "Do that and you're done" - This indicates that the remaining letters of the ciphertext (hers) don't have to be encrypted anymore, so add aaaa to the key.
Bonus: Clue #3 "The middle letter of newsletter," is a red herring, since it doesn't have a middle letter.

• Well done, congrats! Commented Sep 23, 2016 at 11:03
• @TheBitByte Thanks! Now I only hope I can also solve The Cipher Machine :P It's definitely the hardest cipher of yours so far (at least for me).
– user14478
Commented Sep 23, 2016 at 11:06

I will add some thoughts here and see if they are on the right track and someone can workout something with them:

First of all

Text in brackets ||, can be arranged like: A piece of useless text?

Then in Ciphe line

As Ciphe is not complete it could give us a hint, since we are removing the last r like Cipher --> Ciphe, then newsletter --> newslette where l is the middle letter.

Then in You wish to find i.

Pacesetter can be split up in pace and setter as @TheBitByte pointed out.

Probably all what I stated could be wrong or people already deduce it, but somewhat I want to solve this

• You got misled by a false clue. Which one it is, you'll have to find out. Commented Sep 21, 2016 at 13:42
• Ah that sounds better! Commented Sep 21, 2016 at 13:48