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I may be thought dishonest
But I’m often spoken over
And you may not understand the words

By another name, I would place my weight on you
Or at least allude to your work.

You must pick me
Or later, give me a bow

Hint 1

While "you may not understand the words," they may still be music to your ears.

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    $\begingroup$ Are we allowed to know the meaning of "bow"? A weapon? Gesture? Tie alternative? $\endgroup$ Commented Jul 27, 2016 at 1:54
  • $\begingroup$ @SlavaKnyazev, figuring that out is kinda part of the riddle, but I'll add a hint tomorrow. $\endgroup$
    – Dedwards
    Commented Jul 27, 2016 at 2:19

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Are you

a lyre ?

I may be thought dishonest

sounds like "liar"

But I’m often spoken over And you may not understand the words

The recitations of the Ancient Greeks were accompanied by lyre playing. And I wouldn't understand those words, because "they're Greek to me"...

By another name, I would place my weight on you

Lyres are defined as "yoke lutes".

Or at least allude to your work.

The term is also used metaphorically to refer to the work or skill of a poet.

You must pick me Or later, give me a bow

The lyre of classical antiquity was ordinarily played by being strummed with a plectrum (pick). However, later lyres were played with a bow.

(Citing Wikipedia for most of my explanations)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyre

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  • $\begingroup$ I was going to say that, but couldn't come up with the work either... $\endgroup$
    – John
    Commented Jul 27, 2016 at 21:13
  • $\begingroup$ Hmmm... well there you have it. $\endgroup$
    – John
    Commented Jul 27, 2016 at 21:13
  • $\begingroup$ This is it! You nailed it. $\endgroup$
    – Dedwards
    Commented Jul 27, 2016 at 21:13
  • $\begingroup$ My complete list after lyre was bow/beau, phony/ey... but for various reasons didn't quite fit. I even also entertained 'trumped' for a while. And 'rap'/wrap made an appearance for a while, lol. Good job. $\endgroup$
    – John
    Commented Jul 27, 2016 at 21:15
  • $\begingroup$ @kayzeroshort, the larger lyres were played resting on the body. That may reference the weight as well. $\endgroup$
    – John
    Commented Jul 27, 2016 at 21:25
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Are you :

A violin (/fiddle?)

I may be thought dishonest

Dishonest: “He's always on the fiddle.”

But I’m often spoken over

Violins often play in orchestras with other instruments playing over it

And you may not understand the words

Words of music

By another name, I would place my weight on you

Not sure about the "By another name" part, but you place the weight of a violin on your shoulder.

Or at least allude to your work.

Not sure about this one. maybe works as in a piece from a composer?

You must pick me

Not sure either. is "picking" maybe a technique on a violin? Like plucking?

Or later, give me a bow

A bow is used to play the violin

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  • $\begingroup$ Quite a few clues are missing answers here... $\endgroup$
    – Dedwards
    Commented Jul 27, 2016 at 14:28
  • $\begingroup$ This was my immediate thought. $\endgroup$ Commented Jul 27, 2016 at 19:59
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Are you :

Plagiarism?

I may be thought dishonest

Plagiarism constitutes an act of academic dishonesty

But I’m often spoken over

Lots of people already used that before, and it is still being used

And you may not understand the words

Plagiarizing is sometimes done in hast, thus leading to the plagiarist not understanding all of the work he is plagiarizing

By another name, I would place my weight on you

You can give another name to the original author's one to refer to his work

Or at least allude to your work.

You can include a citation, thus giving credit to the original author, even if a citation might not be enough.

You must pick me

Can't find something for this line...

Or later, give me a bow

If the plagiarism comes successful, then you have to thank it (that basically comes down to thank yourself).

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  • $\begingroup$ Creative answer, but not correct. $\endgroup$
    – Dedwards
    Commented Jul 27, 2016 at 14:26
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Are you :

Sight / looking

I may be thought dishonest

Looks can be deceiving

But I’m often spoken over

Oversight / overlook

And you may not understand the words

A picture is worth a thousand words

By another name, I would place my weight on you

Not sure about this

Or at least allude to your work.

You can 'cite' another work

Not sure about the rest.

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  • $\begingroup$ I like this one, but it's not the answer. $\endgroup$
    – Dedwards
    Commented Jul 27, 2016 at 14:30
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Could you be

Dubbed?

I may be thought dishonest

A dubbed TV show may have messages changed or lost in translation, or it may have entire scenes dropped due to laws or cultural differences

But I’m often spoken over

A dubbed track is 'spoken over' the original footage

And you may not understand the words

Well I've all been there, accidentally watching a dubbed version of something in a language we don't understand.

By another name, I would place my weight on you

You could be dubbed with a title hat carries weight?

Or at least allude to your work.

Or just one that implies what you do for a living eg. Dr.

You must pick me

Dubbed can mean chosen

Or later, give me a bow

Bowing as you are struck lightly with a sword to become a knight?

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  • $\begingroup$ No, sorry this isn't the answer. $\endgroup$
    – Dedwards
    Commented Jul 27, 2016 at 14:29
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Are you a

Disclaimer?

I May be thought dishonest

Some people think disclaimers hide information

But I am often spoken over

in commercials disclaimer are read rapidly underneath actor portrayals

And you might not understand the words

because they are read so rapidly it can be hard to catch all of a disclaimer

By another name, I place my weight on you

A disclaimer is about responsibility, which can be a "weight on your shoulders"

Or at least allude to your work

What you claim responsibility for alludes to what you intended your product for

You must pick me

almost everything needs a disclaimer to protect the creators from lawsuits

Or later, give me a bow

if you don't do a disclaimer a lawsuit could bankrupt you forcing you to "bow" to the debt.

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  • $\begingroup$ Disclaimer: this is not correct. :P $\endgroup$
    – Dedwards
    Commented Jul 27, 2016 at 21:29
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Are you a

musical trill?

I may be thought dishonest But I’m often spoken over And you may not understand the words

Dishonest, because in musical notation a trill may be written as a single note even though there are multiple notes being played. This can be indicated by a bar or letters written over it ("spoken over") to indicate the trill should happen.

By another name, I would place my weight on you Or at least allude to your work.

Not sure. "Quaver" is a synonym for trill, and maybe that sounds like learning on someone else? Not confident about that.

You must pick me Or later, give me a bow

On a violin it's easiest to play the trill by picking the two strings, but maybe a more talented violinist can perform the trill with the bow as well.

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Are you a

Toddler?

I may be thought dishonest

Toddlers are prown to stretching the truth.

But I’m often spoken over

Adults will often converse while toddlers attempt to get their attention.

And you may not understand the words

Toddlers may say unintelligible things since they are new to whatever language they speak.

By another name, I would place my weight on you

A person may allude to their toddler as their child who is often carried thus putting their weight on an adult.

Or at least allude to your work.

Referring to a todddler as your child alludes to your "work" put in to make them exist.

You must pick me

This could refer to picking them up as mentioned before.

Or later, give me a bow

If you don't pick them up initially, later you must bow down to pick them up when they no longer want to walk.

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Are you a

word of praise

I may be thought dishonest But I’m often spoken over

a praise may be considered flattery, and ignored

And you may not understand the words

It may be indirect

By another name, I would place my weight on you

another word for praise is merit, so it may sound like a responsibilty

Or at least allude to your work.

another synonym is commendation, which is also similar to a citation

You must pick me Or later, give me a bow

accept praise gracefully?

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