# Cryptic Crossword: Turtle is ground with pepper (8)

Turtle is ground with pepper. (8)

• Oops. I am very sorry about that.... – Jiminion Jun 9 '16 at 16:54

TERRAPIN

The definition is turtle. The wordplay is P for pepper (some pepper shakers have a P on them) inside TERRAIN or ground.

• Correct! I tried to obey cryptic crossword guidelines; sometimes they use a word to indicate a single letter (the letter the word begins with). And sorry again about getting the count wrong, that had to be really annoying. – Jiminion Jun 9 '16 at 17:52
• I'm fine with no word to indicate that pepper is an initial, since it's a common abbreviation. But I think there should be something to indicate that the initial goes inside the rest of the answer. "with" suggests juxtaposition, rather than insertion. – David Richerby Jun 9 '16 at 18:41
• Turtle is ground with pepper added? – Jiminion Jun 9 '16 at 22:08
• @Jiminion Yeah, that's better. – David Richerby Jun 9 '16 at 22:34

SPOTTED

Reason/how I came to this

There is a breed of turtle that is a spotted turtle - something that is spotted is sometimes referred to as peppered

• Wow. Another interesting answer, but not the right one. – Jiminion Jun 9 '16 at 16:48

Taking "ground" as an anagram indicator and "turtle is" as the 8 letters to be rearranged gives SLUTTIER, but I don't see how this is defined by "with pepper". If it the definition part was "with more pepper" = "spicier" = "sexier", that might work.

• That's not the right answer, but it might very well be the BEST one. – Jiminion Jun 9 '16 at 17:51

Could this be

trouper?

I did this
turtle
ground
pepper
and "trouper" has become something that I've distinguished as a word by reading across the lines

• Interesting angle, but not the right answer. – Jiminion Jun 9 '16 at 16:43
• Have you done a cryptic clue before? If not, I suggest reading about cryptic crosswords - they follow fairly precise rules and include a definition. – Deusovi Jun 9 '16 at 16:54
• @Deu Sorry, I haven't -_- – nicael Jun 9 '16 at 16:56
• @Jim Oh wait, now it is 8?.. – nicael Jun 9 '16 at 16:58
• @nicael: I was asking you: the basic idea of a cryptic clue is that there are two 'halves' to it: a definition half and a wordplay half. The definition works like regular crossword definitions, while the wordplay half gives you instructions on how to get the answer another way. For instance, "Shrink from phone in church" would have the answer "CRINGE": CE is the Church of England, and putting RING inside it (a synonym for phone) gives CRINGE, defined as "shrink". – Deusovi Jun 9 '16 at 17:02