# What number is hidden in this card?

The puzzle below is part of a Puzzle Crime Story I have started on my website, but will skip the details here (you can see other puzzles from the series here and here). In short, you have the following rectangular card which has the word "SIN" written on one side and a bunch of letters/symbols on the other. You must figure out a 4-digit number encoded in the card. I am sharing the puzzle here because I've noticed nobody has figured it out yet and want to decide whether to simplify it a bit.

front side back side (turning the card left-to-right)

• When going from the front to the back, did you flip the card over left-to-right or top-to-bottom? – 2012rcampion May 9 '16 at 4:55
• Yeah, that's important - left-to-right. – Puzzle Prime May 9 '16 at 4:57
• Answered in less than a couple of hours. I guess there is no need to simplify it? Maybe you just need to add a carefully phrased hint? – Keale May 9 '16 at 7:06
• I got sidetracked by reading the N's as Z's (which made the anagram step not work). Up to you whether that's something to change or not. – f'' May 9 '16 at 7:33
• @Keale 30 Minutes actually ... This includes creating the post. – print x div 0 May 9 '16 at 10:02

The back side is:

An anagram for PUNISHMENT

Rearranging the letters to match transforms the front into the numbers:

1713

The result as a picture

• Gah, I was working on images! :( – Will May 9 '16 at 5:12
• @Will Yeah, I'm a computer guy but I figured this one would be faster on paper. – 2012rcampion May 9 '16 at 5:19
• @Devsman in my story there is a killer who murders his victims for their sins. This particular one has been greedy. – Puzzle Prime May 9 '16 at 14:00
• I think you can assume "Greed" as a hint too. Except its main meaning according to story, it can be the misspelled word "grid", which is a hint for rearranging the paper cells. – user22815 May 22 '16 at 15:04
• @Puzzle Prime If part of the story depends on "Greed" misspelled as "Grid," (or vice-versa), you might use the fact that "greed" is how a Spanish speaker would pronounce "Grid." This actually happened to me when I asked a Mexican guest if he would like some of my flat chocolate cake. "Would you like a piece of this sheet cake?" . . . pause . . . "What kind of cake . . .???"" 8-D – user41655 Nov 5 '17 at 4:02