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A red "Indian church-rat" is dreaming of a geometrical shape.

Who has the highest hand?

Hint 1:

The English "church-rat" and the Japanese "temple-cat" visited their Indian friend, and went to the capital.

Hint 2:

The "church-rat", the "temple-cat" and the "synagogue-horse" enjoy drinking some milk from their Indian friend.

Hint 3:

The Indian animal is a holy and submissive bully.

Hint 4:

The imam is enjoying milk from his animal friend.

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    $\begingroup$ I don't see how we were supposed to get "cow" from "rat". $\endgroup$ – Deusovi Apr 3 '16 at 23:29
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    $\begingroup$ @Enigma: That still doesn't excuse the leap from "rat" to "cow". Where does "rat" fit in? How is a cow an Indian rat? $\endgroup$ – Deusovi Apr 4 '16 at 5:35
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    $\begingroup$ @Enigma: Puzzles should be solvable without hints; if hints are an integral part of the puzzle then they should be in the puzzle itself. As it stood originally (and as it currently stands without hints), the puzzle was completely unsolvable. Also, the only source I can find for "church-rat" as an actual phrase is an incredibly racist UrbanDictionary entry. $\endgroup$ – Deusovi Apr 4 '16 at 5:46
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    $\begingroup$ I saw that Urban dictionary thing too, but that is not it. "Church-rat" could be used on people, but the prime meaning is perhaps better on a rat (or mouse) living in a church, or more popular in the church organ. $\endgroup$ – Enigma Apr 4 '16 at 5:52
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    $\begingroup$ I am not 100% sure about the definition of church-rat but if it is same as or near to the definition in UrbanDictionary then I must say, that's not how Indian people take cows. There are many festivals celebrated on cows like Pongal, Gowardhar Pooja etc. Eating beef in the state of Maharashtra is against the law. But if UrbanDictionary's definition is wrong, you can just neglect this comment. $\endgroup$ – manshu Apr 4 '16 at 14:43
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Edit: is it perhaps the celebrated butcher,

Kuzma Minin, from the monument in Moscow’s Red Square

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Minin-Pozharsky monument

Original partial answer: I presume the capital is

Moscow

since the Indian $PLACEOFWORSHIP-$ANIMAL is, of course, a

mosque-cow.

The shape from the dream is therefore

square (Mosque-cow’s red square).

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  • $\begingroup$ Yes! One additional hint is in the title: a "rusty" place to "fly" to. $\endgroup$ – Enigma Apr 4 '16 at 4:56
  • $\begingroup$ You have figured out the highest hand, so if you update the answer saying so, I will give you the bounty:-) $\endgroup$ – Enigma Apr 4 '16 at 4:59
  • $\begingroup$ @Enigma: ok, removed the misleading last sentence of my original answer :-) Re the “rusty” place to “fly” — what does that point to? I guessed that was another hint, but couldn’t see any connection from it (at least not more specific than rusty = red, but you gave us the red directly anyway, so I guess that’s not it). $\endgroup$ – Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine Apr 4 '16 at 13:59
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    $\begingroup$ Mathias Rust, who flew and landed on the red square during the Cold War $\endgroup$ – Enigma Apr 4 '16 at 14:28
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I can't answer the final question yet, but:

It could be related to a casino game, like Black Jack or Poker (highest hand). Red and Indian may refer to native Americans, which are stereotypically known for running casinos. Dreaming may refer to the American dream (getting rich from nowhere with a business, like a casino), or wishing for a particular card. However, the church-rat doesn't make any sense to me...

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  • $\begingroup$ The question is tagged with geography... $\endgroup$ – Enigma Mar 23 '16 at 14:21
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Certainly, this must be one of the highest hands in the capital:

Hanuman statue/temple in New Delhi

Hanuman statue in New Delhi

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  • $\begingroup$ Wrong capital... $\endgroup$ – Enigma Mar 29 '16 at 19:15
  • $\begingroup$ If you mean American Indian, you should say so (or rather Native American) instead of "red" Indian. $\endgroup$ – feelinferrety Mar 29 '16 at 20:30
  • $\begingroup$ I don't mean that. Red and Indian is just two separate clues standing next to each other $\endgroup$ – Enigma Mar 29 '16 at 20:57
  • $\begingroup$ Okay, so we're still talking India here? (Sorry if my previous comment sounded snippy) $\endgroup$ – feelinferrety Mar 29 '16 at 21:39
  • $\begingroup$ I didn't say that, it is still a clue $\endgroup$ – Enigma Mar 30 '16 at 4:27
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Clutching at straws:

Hint 3:

Should be "cow". A cow is a holy animal in India. Being submissive is "cowed". A male cow is a bull.

Hint 4:

Is "goat"?

Observation 1:

Could the answer be: Mount Everest?
I can rearrange the letters to form "Rev. mouse" which would be a "church-rat"?
And Everest is the highest peak...
But I can't relate this to any of the hints.

Observation 2 (no idea if it's at all related):

From the letters of "monastery dog" I can make the following words which are words, or are related to words, in the puzzle and hints:
soar (fly), red, God, sermon, rat, dream, star, dome (shapes), most (highest), mastery (upper hand), monastery, dragon, stray, met (visited), mate (friend), go/gone (went), money (capital), mare (female horse), some, goat

If I could also use J, C and W, then I could make:
decagon, jew, enjoy, cow

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  • $\begingroup$ Remember that this puzzle is tagged with geography $\endgroup$ – Enigma Apr 3 '16 at 20:39
  • $\begingroup$ I know, I know... but nothing seems to fit... Okay, I'll update the answer with an idea I had earlier but didn't pursue. $\endgroup$ – KeyboardWielder Apr 3 '16 at 20:54
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Is the answer

Animal Farm ?

Since

English Church sounds like George (Orwell), and there are horses (Boxer and Clover) and cats and cows and milk

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  • $\begingroup$ No. But it is a good idea to play with the words:-) $\endgroup$ – Enigma Apr 2 '16 at 12:08
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God knows for what reason but this question seems related to the geocaching game. I also find the relevance of the term "Church rat" with this geocaching game. Guess I don't think I'd be able to solve this question but here's my finding.

Hope it helps other explorers. Luck.

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  • $\begingroup$ Nope, no geocaching $\endgroup$ – Enigma Apr 2 '16 at 11:15

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