This is something of a follow-on to Hugh Meyer's enjoyable "Titanic Tic-Tac-Toe." Fortunately, our intrepid heroes Xavier and Oliver have wrested away a bit of wreckage that some fellow named Jack was holding on to and, as they sit in the icy North Atlantic, they pass the time by playing their favourite game.

Since they are now subject to the random undulations of the waves, they've had to change up their play again. Their rules are now as follows:

  • Each player may, before placing a marker, shift the board in any direction, not just to the right.
  • As before, the player may only shift a row or column provided that it either (a) removes one of his tokens or (b) does not remove any of his opponent's.
  • As before, a player may not play on the same square in consecutive turns.

After some discussion and gentlemanly concession, Xavier and Oliver have added the following stipulation:

  • The player may not make a play so as to return the board to state that it has previously been after his turn. If that is the only such move they can make, they lose.

To provide some mathematical clarity, if $S_i$ is the state of the board after the $i$ turns, then for $i \ne j$, $S_i = S_j$ only if $i \not\equiv j \mod 2$.

Their hope is that this will keep them from getting caught in a vicious cycle.

So, will Oliver win a game before the Carpathia arrives to save them? (Will Xavier?)

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    $\begingroup$ I knew I should have copyrighted! :) I was actually thinking of placing them on the Lucitania with the added rule that the second player (only) has a one-time opportunity to rotate the board 90 degrees at the start of any turn. I hoped to be able to work out the consequences in my head. Should anyone be interested, feel free to give it a shot. $\endgroup$ Mar 2, 2016 at 8:13
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    $\begingroup$ Also, if I could ask for some clarification. I assume that the final rule means that you cannot recreate a state that has existed at any time during the current game. Also that "state" includes whose turn it is to move. Too long for a comment, but it is possible to produce a situation with x's and o's in the same positions but it is the opposite player's move. Is this legal or not? $\endgroup$ Mar 2, 2016 at 10:40
  • $\begingroup$ Does the rule from the previous question, "A player may not play two successive moves on the same square", still apply? $\endgroup$
    – Kevin
    Mar 2, 2016 at 15:46
  • $\begingroup$ @HughMeyers At the moment, I'm leaving that possibility open. $\endgroup$
    – Matt
    Mar 2, 2016 at 15:50
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    $\begingroup$ If a player places their piece in the last free space, without completing a row, does the game end in a draw, or is the next player forced to start their move with a tilt? $\endgroup$ Mar 2, 2016 at 20:39

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There can't be a draw because if the board is full, either you can move the board and get new places to play, or you can't because all positions you can go where already used, and you lose.

So the game always ends with a win for first or second player. So, as it is a finite two players game with no draw, there is exactly one player that has a winning strategy.

Now, you can remark that having a marker on the board is always better than not having one : it allows you to make a line, it prevents the other to make a line through it and it allows you to shift the board. Hence, the first player has a winning strategy, because if it hasn't, then he could play the strategy of the second player before him (it's the same argument than classical tic tac toe in fact).

Hence the first player to play has a winning strategy.

Now, knowing it exists doesn't give it, and it can be a very complex one...

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    $\begingroup$ I'm not convinced that a strategy-stealing argument is valid here because of the rule against repeating positions. $\endgroup$
    – f''
    Jul 7, 2016 at 14:28

there are 3^9 possible boards, (and not all of those are reachable) after at-most a few thousand moves someone will have won, either conventionally, or by snookering their opponent


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