I am after and before
I am the god who said no more!
A fraudulent rose, now set free
The foundation sat upon me.

Who am I?


I refuse to move, though I'm casually roaming

  • is the speaker [after-and-before the "god"] mentioned in the second line, or is the speaker [that "god"]? – question_asker Dec 10 '15 at 15:53
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    The speaker is that god. I'll make a minor edit for clarity. – frodoskywalker Dec 10 '15 at 17:21
  • I'm going with Gaia – Raystafarian Dec 10 '15 at 17:35
  • Alls I can think is Atlas, but I can't fill in blanks enough to convince myself. – Timmy Dec 10 '15 at 19:27
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    If anyone wants to post an answer with their interpretations, I can tell you which ones are along the right lines. – frodoskywalker Dec 10 '15 at 20:04
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I have the actual answer this time! Very confident. You are



I am after and before

A terminus is the beginning or end of something

I am the god who said no more

Terminus declares "no more" in Ralph Waldo Emerson's poem of the same name.

A fraudulent rose, now set free

The hacker Terminus, whose real name was Leonard Rose, was imprisoned for wire fraud for a year and a day.

The foundation sat upon me

In Isaac Asimov's Foundation series, the Foundation is built on the planet Terminus at the edge of the galaxy.

Excellent riddle.

I refuse to move, though I'm casually roaming

Terminus, as a god of boundary stones, forbade the removal of his marker from the future site if the temple of Jupiter. He was also a Roman god, and "casually roaming"="roamin".

  • Excellent! Your answer is correct, though your explanation for line 2 is wrong... – frodoskywalker Dec 11 '15 at 7:04
  • I've taken the liberty of editing in explanations for line 2 and the hint, for the benefit of future readers. Please revert if you would rather I had not done this. – frodoskywalker Dec 12 '15 at 19:10

Terrible guess: you are



After and before: Peter can appear as a first or last name (both real and fictional people are named Peter Peter, even). Said no more: Peter Parker renounced his godhood and said he'd be Spiderman no more. A fraudulent rose, now set free: Peter "Pete" Rose, the baseball player, was imprisoned for tax fraud but is now set free. The foundation sat upon me: Matthew 16:18

  • This is easily the best one I've seen so far as far as matching the third line. – question_asker Dec 10 '15 at 20:41
  • I love this! It's wrong, but brilliant, and you are thinking along the right lines for line 3. – frodoskywalker Dec 10 '15 at 21:37

I think the answer is



I am after and before

It was before our existence and will be even after our death because it don't stop

I am the god who said no more!

When you lose it you can't get it back. The word 'said' here shows that it was past tense i.e. it is gone.

A fraudulent rose, now set free

There had been a great discussion on time in physics. But now everything is decided how it works

The foundation sat upon me.

It started with big bang.

  • Nice try, but I'm afraid not. (And I think time is still pretty mysterious) – frodoskywalker Dec 10 '15 at 21:39


Nothing or nothingness? Not sure about the third verse, though.

I am after and before

Before and after existance - nothing, basically

I am the god who said no more!

"God had no choice" as to whether or not to "start" the Universe, as i'm sure i read some philosopher say.

A fraudulent rose, now set free

Not sure

The foundation sat upon me.

You can only start building from scratch (foundations) by starting with/from nothing.

  • Can you explain your reasoning, please? – frodoskywalker Dec 10 '15 at 20:26
  • Edited. I'm on mobile, sorry if it looks funny – Mihai Ovidiu Drăgoi Dec 10 '15 at 20:36
  • Interesting interpretation, but I'm afraid none of those are on track. – frodoskywalker Dec 10 '15 at 21:36

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