We are tasked with finding a password. Our only hint seems to be:

Was wir wissen, ist ein Ozean;

was wir nicht wissen, ist ein Tropfen.

German for:

What we know is an ocean, what we don't know, is a drop.

What is the password?

The site this is from can be found here.

English translations for Finnish words:

  • taso = level
  • Edellisen tason koodi = the code for the previous level
  • Kirjoita salasana = write the password
  • vastaus = answer
  • Lähetä = submit.

Here are the first 4 passwords:

  • Level 1: salasana
  • Level 2: aybabtu
  • Level 3: 237812992
  • Level 4: 62981123
  • $\begingroup$ The translation of this is What we know, is an ocean; which we do not know, is a drop. You will have to work out the rest by yourself. $\endgroup$
    – user2174
    Commented Aug 20, 2014 at 9:42
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    $\begingroup$ That was in Finnish programming forum, ohjelmointiputka.net/postit/elhak-koe.php . I think you need an account to do the puzzle. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 20, 2014 at 13:11
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    $\begingroup$ Why don't you give the answers for level 1-4.Then users can simply check for themselves bcoz i could go upto level 3 without any account. Answer:- level 1 = salasana, lvl2 = aybabtu. Whats the answers for lvl3 and 4? $\endgroup$
    – Hubble07
    Commented Aug 21, 2014 at 4:07
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    $\begingroup$ @Hubble07: Here is how you can go to level 5: Level 1: salasana Level 2: aybabtu Level 3: 237812992 Level 4: 62981123 $\endgroup$
    – user2181
    Commented Aug 21, 2014 at 7:18
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    $\begingroup$ Given apparantly someone deleted some comments, I'll readd this. It appears this 'puzzle' is supposedly part of an entrance exam to a hacker group (Elitehacker Brotherhood). The matching page shows there's 80+ people that have solved level 10 (there is 10 levels): ohjelmointiputka.net/posti.php?tunnus=elhak . In that light the ask for help is a bit sneaky. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 22, 2014 at 6:30

5 Answers 5


As Tim Couwelier mentioned in his answer, the quote is the opposite of what Newton said. So the password could be a variation on the opposite of Newton. Anti-newton comes to mind, but that isn't a real concept. So I am guessing Antineutron, since a good password hint does not lead directly to the password, but in a more vague manner.

  • $\begingroup$ It wasn't an Antineutron. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 20, 2014 at 13:14

May it be "Graviton", it is an hypothetical elementary particle that mediates the force of gravitation. It is small "like a drop", unknown, related to Newton (Gravity) and proposed by Einstein (for some reason the phrase is in German) also Einstein General Relativity changed some concepts from Newtons original theory, like the quote.

I have tried with Graviton but it is no, maybe a variant?. Sorry for not using the comments section, I have no 50 points yet.

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    $\begingroup$ You are encouraged to earn the 50 points needed to comment in the proper fashion. No legitimate way to get your comment in in when you do not have sufficient reputation. $\endgroup$
    – wbogacz
    Commented Nov 8, 2014 at 23:33
  • $\begingroup$ it was not "graviton" $\endgroup$
    – d'alar'cop
    Commented Nov 9, 2014 at 6:42

Caesar since a word from the first half is swapped with a word from the second half, or it may be Newton put through a Caesar cipher.

  • $\begingroup$ Neither of them. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 20, 2014 at 13:54
  • $\begingroup$ It wasn't a reaction. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 20, 2014 at 14:13
  • $\begingroup$ It wasn't the asked password. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 20, 2014 at 19:38

Usually the quote goes different: what we know is a drop, what we don't know is an ocean. That seems to be a quote from Sir Isaac Newton.

If anything, I'd guess the answer could be a variation on Newton (like notwen, ...)

  • $\begingroup$ I tried notwen, Notwen, Oldton, tonold, and also German version Neuton but with no luck. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 20, 2014 at 13:13
  • $\begingroup$ @computerenthusiast Old = Alt in German, so maybe try Altton as well $\endgroup$
    – Tymric
    Commented Aug 20, 2014 at 13:27
  • $\begingroup$ @Timmy It wasn't Altton or altton. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 20, 2014 at 13:37
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    $\begingroup$ In addition - if it's just a 'classic' word play... 'what we don't know' = the password needed. So try 'Tropfen' or 'ein Tropfen' ? $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 20, 2014 at 14:50
  • $\begingroup$ That was not the solution. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 20, 2014 at 19:47

I was thinking about Lepton or Photon because of eV Tasso and the thing is EV - taso 5?

EDIT Just tried it, didn't work. Is there any new update on this? This has been dead for about 6 months, and I can't stop fiddling with this. I MUST KNOW lol


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