# Don't rat out the secret answer

Here's a riddle for the day

One fell in love with his music system
Another led the opposers in Queensland
One played the man playing a trick
The last lost his love by his own hand

Hint 1:

Queensland is not the Australian state here. Read it aloud.

Hint 2:

Hunter's answer is certainly on the right track.

Hint 3:

The title is also a clue.

Hint 4: (big one)

Queensland isn't one word.

__Hint 5: (AND THE BIGGEST ONE YET)

In his question, Engineer Toast has been inspired a lot more than he thinks. (Or maybe he knows, but I'm not sure.)

• Well, this was no help at all... – Engineer Toast Jun 23 '15 at 15:36
• @EngineerToast: Read it out loud. Maybe I took it a bit too far in trying to be obscure. – CodeNewbie Jun 23 '15 at 15:56
• I'm guessing your hint about "Queensland" means you're talking about Alice from Through the Looking Glass, who commanded the black army against the Queen of Hearts' red army. – Joe Z. Jun 23 '15 at 16:08
• @JoeZ. not quite. But I like the way you think. Think more about what it sounds like. – CodeNewbie Jun 23 '15 at 16:21
• @CodeNewbie No! I had no idea! That's freaking' amazing. It makes sense, though. It turns out I deciphered the Queensland clue correctly but, when I couldn't find the rest, I figured I had it wrong. That was the launching pad for my own riddle, though. – Engineer Toast Jun 24 '15 at 12:18

I'm going to try this one, even if I'm not convinced:

Edward

I don't have great explanations, though:

One fell in love with his music system

Edward Williams created the Soundbeam music system. Based on the other hint in the comments, this is actually Edward Maya, because of his song called "Stereo Love" (definitely not my genre, I would have never found it out).

Another led the opposers in Queensland

Edward Hand, maybe? He's been a general in the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War. I thought of Edward Braddock first, but I find it hard to say he "led the opposers". Ed Milliband comes to mind, he was leader of the opposition from 2010 to 2015.

One played the man playing a trick

Well, Edward Norton in The Illusionist.

The last lost his love by his own hand

This made me think of Edward Scissorhands, even if he didn't exactly "lost his love by his hand".

apparently at least two rodent species are named like that: Edward's swamp rat and Edwards's long-tailed giant rat. Probably Edward Snowden, who leaked information from the NSA.

• Edward is correct! First Edward is not an inventor or scientist, but an EDM artist known for his song '*** Love'. *** is where the music system part fits in. – CodeNewbie Jun 24 '15 at 9:18
• Oh, ok, I'll edit the answer. – Aioros Jun 24 '15 at 9:23
• Also, Edward who led the opposers in "Queen's land" is different. I'm talking about a politician. And for the title, I'm talking about a famous Edward who was a rat (not the animal). (Also, what he did was rat out the secret). – CodeNewbie Jun 24 '15 at 9:28
• Edited again, I hope I got it right this time. Otherwise I fear it's going to be a long trial-and-error session :) – Aioros Jun 24 '15 at 9:40
• Perfect now! :) – CodeNewbie Jun 24 '15 at 9:47

This is my guess... The answer could be:

(the surname) NEWMAN

One fell in love with his music system


Alfred Newman: developed what came to be known as the Newman System, a means of synchronising the performance and recording of a musical score with the film.

Another led the opposers in Queensland


Campbell Newman was elected to lead the LNP into the 2012 Queensland state election
(Being Queensland actually Queen's Land) John Henry Newman, who became known as a leader of, and an able polemicist for, the Oxford Movement, an influential and controversial grouping of Anglicans who wished to return to the Church of England many Catholic beliefs and liturgical rituals from before the English Reformation.

One played the man playing a trick


Paul Newman, who played a pool player in "The color of money" and in "The hustler".

The last lost his love by his own hand


The singer John Newman (is it a reference to "Out Of My Head" lyrics? )

• Anyway, I suppose that the solution is a surname... ;) – Hunter Jun 23 '15 at 8:07
• I'm still stuck to my first guess... I changed one of the answers, due to the hint about Queensland... – Hunter Jun 24 '15 at 7:09
• I assure you, it isn't Newman. With Newman, your second and third clue fit very well indeed, but the first and fourth are rather loosely fit. Again, check the question linked in hint 5 (where I had previously wrongly mentioned your name instead of EngineerToast). – CodeNewbie Jun 24 '15 at 7:12
• Also, you haven't found the link with the question title. – CodeNewbie Jun 24 '15 at 7:25

Maybe they're

bridge players.

One fell in love with his music system

Another led the opposers in Queensland

This player is opposite another and has lots of queens in his hand.

One played the man playing a trick

A round of play in bridge is called a trick, so at any time each player is playing another who's playing a trick.

The last lost his love by his own hand

This player's hand was so bad that he lost the game, and with it whatever he'd wagered (he probably loves money).

• Interestng answer, rand. But nothing related. – CodeNewbie Jun 23 '15 at 9:26

My guess:

Henry

One fell in love with his music system

Henry Kloss developed the first portable music system.

Another led the opposers in Queensland

Patrick Henry against the British Army (Queen's Land)

One played the man playing a trick

This one, I cannot figure out. Best I've got is King Henry IV (the play).

The last lost his love by his own hand

King Henry V killed his own wives.

• And yes, I can confirm that you've got the correct interpretation of Queensland. :) – CodeNewbie Jun 24 '15 at 3:03