Well, my last question wasn't received that well, nevertheless I will make a better one, besides you will need all the answers you can get.


Now I can't leave you with a stupid cryptogram and another strange title, can I?
I did that one time, this time it's not that simple because what I am looking for cannot be described in words. It is however, the answer in more ways than one.

Hint #1

My words are well chosen, mistakes are never made.

Hint #2

This one time I will layout the pad before you.

Hint #3

The previous question is more useful than you might think

Hint #4

If you know vcejssnr then something in the previous question must be familiar, if not google.

Hint #5

the answer is the driving factor for the entirety of the story

If you take away anything from this puzzle let it be that

the book mentioned in the answer is worth a read :)

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    $\begingroup$ What you're looking for can be described in words. Try "a picture", "a number", "a word", "a set of letters", "a philosophical concept", etc. $\endgroup$ Apr 16, 2015 at 18:28
  • $\begingroup$ O seriously, why do I get a down vote? at least tell me so I can do something about it? :'( $\endgroup$
    – Vincent
    Apr 16, 2015 at 18:48
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    $\begingroup$ "difficile est saturam non scribere" (It's difficult not to write a satire) is contained in Juvenal's works, like in your last question. You changed "scribere" meaning "to write" to "legere" meaning "to read". I don't know.. somehow "scribere" has similar letters to "vcejssnr" which we can rearrange to "scrjvers". EDIT: j/i, v/b, s/e are close on my qwerty keyboard x). $\endgroup$ Apr 16, 2015 at 18:56
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    $\begingroup$ @leoll2 I think part of the downvote situation here relates to this question: meta.puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/1717/…. It seems like a puzzle with very few hints, so it's not well-received. $\endgroup$
    – mdc32
    Apr 16, 2015 at 19:05
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    $\begingroup$ It depends on the difficulty of the problem, anyway 1 hint every 24 hours is appropriate for each kind of puzzle, in my opinion! $\endgroup$
    – leoll2
    Apr 17, 2015 at 10:13

1 Answer 1


The cryptogram decodes to:


which results from the cipher text of vcejssnr and a key (one time pad) of scribere

So, the answer to the riddle could be:

the number 3

In Dan Brown's novel, the Digital Fortress is the name of a new encryption algorithm that cannot be broken by the NSA. This relates to the one time pad encryption method that, also, cannot be broken when properly used.

Another link is the quote from the previous question "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" which was used in this novel. As described in the previous question, this sentence was written by the Roman poet, Juvenal, in his Satires collection of poems (which also relates to the title of this question).

Assuming that "cannot be described in words" means that "the answer is a number", then the number 3 is most significant in this novel. The kill code for the virus was 3.

  • $\begingroup$ not bad, try to incorporate the previous answer more. $\endgroup$
    – Vincent
    Apr 18, 2015 at 18:33
  • $\begingroup$ btw how did you get YHWH? $\endgroup$
    – Vincent
    Apr 18, 2015 at 19:26
  • $\begingroup$ Oww nice word, it's new to me but seems a bit to literal, in the comments Ian MacDonald gave a good indication of what it might be. $\endgroup$
    – Vincent
    Apr 18, 2015 at 20:45
  • $\begingroup$ Oww verry nice, but i wouldn't let the answer depend on dutch, no yhe thing i'm looking for is a number (cannot be described in words) but you've got the correct book though ;) $\endgroup$
    – Vincent
    Apr 25, 2015 at 9:08
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    $\begingroup$ True, that's my kryptonite, over dramatifying things :P $\endgroup$
    – Vincent
    Apr 25, 2015 at 18:02

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