# Capture a laser beam

Design a mirror box that can capture a laser beam, so that it will keep reflecting forever. The setup looks like in the following image: The goal is to design a box in a way, that the light beam will never escape.

Rules:

• The walls are perfectly smooth and reflective. The beam will always reflect under the same angle it impacts the wall. There is no absorption. Also, no quantum-mechanical effects exist in this universe. One-directional mirrors are not permitted either
• If the beam escapes the box and points away to infinity, the game is over
• If the beam ever returns back to its source, it is also game over
• Neither the box or any part of it, or light source can move. The setup is completely static, except for the laser beam

Preference:

• This is not a hard rule, but the simple the solution is, the better. Ideally using only basic 2D/3D geometry. However, if you have an interesting solution using some more advanced geometric, or mathematical concepts, it is more than welcome!

Disclaimer: I do not have a solution. Let's create one!

Based on the feedback from other users, I provide additional details here:

• The shape of the box is not limited to a rectangle, it can be anything, polygon, sphere, even more exotic shapes are allowed (like fractals for examples), or shapes from non-euclidean geometry, higher number of dimensions than 3 is also allowed, although not preferred. Mirrors do not need to be straight lines, they can be curved in any way you see fit.
• Laser source and box hole sizes are not negligible.
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• Does the box need to be a perfect rectangle, or are other shapes acceptable (pentagon, hexagon, trapezoid etc)?
– Oray
Aug 4 at 10:32
• Actually, any shape is allowed. Including some more exotic stuff, like fractals, or some non-euclidean geometry. If needed, the box can even have more than 3 dimensions, although it is not preferred. Aug 4 at 10:50
• Back in the day, people used very rough circular objects with a small hole in the middle to simulate a blackbody. Would this work for you? Aug 4 at 15:15
• This is more of a theoretical puzzle than practical. Building box, where beam can bounce thousands times is one thing, but a box, where it can keep bouncing forever, infinity many times, with guarantee that it will not return to the entry point is something different. It very well might be impossible, as Bass suggested. At the very least, it will require some "out of the box" solution (couldn't resist the pun). Aug 4 at 17:10

Assuming that you can create curved mirrors with infinite precision, then you could catch a ray ...

between two parabolic curves, as shown in the image. . If approached at the right angle, then the ray will get more and more vertical with every reflection. In fact every bounce is about (*) half as far from the Y-axis than the previous bounce, therefor the ray will not reach the Y-axis in a finite length (nor in a finite time).

(*) In the limit this will become exactly half as far with every bounce.

If curved mirrors are more expensive then you could simplify the room:

Since the figure is symmetrical, you could replace one mirror by a straight mirror on the X-axis.

A real life equivalent (albeit with a reverse light direction):

Looking into the polished bell of a trumpet (or other brass wind instrument). Notice the environment repeating in rings with increasing number of internal reflections. With the proper bell shape and under the right viewing angle, the rings can get increasingly narrow and converge into a (dark) singularity. • Note that by doing the first reflection just right, this can be made to work for all initial angles from the same position of the laser. Aug 5 at 12:55
• @Retudin you mean like an extra “focusing” mirror, with a different shape? That should be feasible indeed, but the math would be beyond me. Aug 5 at 13:35
• Yes , - I also are not going to attempt the math, but it is clear to me that it is possible, so your solution can handle more than 1 exact beam, which seemed worth mentioning. Aug 6 at 10:21
• @KrisVanBael which software is that? Aug 9 at 16:07
• @fartgeek Grapher for macOS with hand drawn rays. Aug 10 at 5:33

As long as we assume that the hole the laser goes in is not infinitesimal in size, and the laser can escape if it hits anywhere "near enough", then any solutions based on irrational numbers are out, and the only remaining solution is to capture the laser beam in some kind of fixed loop where it goes around forever.

To capture the beam in an infinite loop,

you'd need tools that are not available for us in this setup.

The way to see this is to build a mirror setup that captures the laser in an infinite loop, and then

reverse the laser beam.

If we do that, every reflection will still happen at exactly the same place, in exactly the same way, but now

the reversed laser will travel backwards in the same infinite loop (no matter how complex) for an infinite time, and after that, the reversed laser will somehow decide to leave the loop and hit the laser gun.

Obviously, that's not how infinite loops work, so

it's impossible to capture the laser using static mirrors alone.

NB: In the comments, @JaapScherphuis astutely points out that in the first paragraph, my argument does not rule out non-looping infinite paths for all possible mirror shapes. I do confess to thinking about "boxes" as consisting of a finite number of straight mirror segments.

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• Yes, I was suspecting, this could be the case. My line of thinking was to capture the laser in almost perfect loop, that would be approaching (but never quite reaches) the perfection. Somewhat similar concept to asymptotes. But still couldn't design it in a way that I could show that it will really not escape. Aug 4 at 11:23

If we take a more mathematical theoretical approach, instead of a realistic one..

we could create an infinity box, based on the following limit:
$${\frac {1}{2}}+{\frac {1}{4}}+{\frac {1}{8}}+{\frac {1}{16}}+\cdots =\sum _{n=1}^{\infty }\left({\frac {1}{2}}\right)^{n}=1.}$$
reference: wikipedia

This assumes the laser beam and the thickness of the walls could get infinitely small. The box could then look something like this: • Note that an infinite number of bounces doesn't mean an infinite amount of time. (cfr. Zeno's paradox). After the first bounce, your ray will only travel for distance 2x before reaching the room's singularity singularity Aug 4 at 20:06
• Why don't we change it to $\frac 1 2 + \frac 1 3 + \frac 1 4$, which goes to infinity, if I am not mistaken Aug 4 at 21:27
• I agree with Kris that in this arrangement the light travels a path with infinite reflections but a finite total length, so it will do it in a finite time. It is unclear what happens afterwards, since this is a supertask like Thomson's lamp, without a final limit state. You could arrange the mirrors on opposite sides of the box and just tilt them to reflect the light to the next mirror, and you'd have an infinitely long path that will work forever. Aug 4 at 22:50

Partial Mathematical Response:

This problem seems to share a lot of properties with the Assassin Puzzle, where a finite number of guards are used to protect a target from bullets that can bounce an infinite number of times. This problem seems similar except that the assassin and target are at the same point!

I shared some links on this answer on the math stack exchange, in particular :

One simplification made is that they assumed that the room in question is a square. This allows the room to be tessellated across the plane and for the bullet to be modeled as a straight line.

Unfortunately, our solution is likely not a square, but perhaps the "guards" in the assassin puzzle could be special points in our problem where a corner could be placed and re-shape our box in such a way that our light does not escape.

This means that perhaps a box with a finite number of curves and no corners could solve the problem above. (The wonderful solutions by @Lezzup and @Kris van Bael assume an infinite number of straight line segments or infinitely smooth curves.) Unfortunately, I am not familiar enough with the math to dive deeper into this question but I leave this information here in hopes someone else with more expertise can!