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Jul 12, 2016 at 16:45 comment added Gareth McCaughan Greensleeves: How did I manage not to notice that??
S Jul 12, 2016 at 16:14 history suggested hypern CC BY-SA 3.0
Adding OP intended reasoning to answer
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Jul 12, 2016 at 15:47 comment added hypern Also, the rhyme has a similar structure to Greensleaves which is inaccurately credited to Henry VIII
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:45 comment added hypern @GarethMcCaughan It is meant to have the meaning 'and (what) follows (is) six'. Yes, it is an inversion.
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:43 comment added Gareth McCaughan @hypern, I'm still not sure I quite understand line 7, but never mind. (Is "follows six" an inversion as in "cometh the hour, cometh the man" -- thus meaning "six follows"?)
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:42 comment added Gareth McCaughan No problem. It would have taken me ages to think of years for stanza 1 (if I ever did) without your prodding, so I think you had every right to push as you pleased :-).
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:41 history edited Gareth McCaughan CC BY-SA 3.0
daughters??
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:40 vote accept hypern
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:39 comment added Marius @GarethMcCaughan. Sorry for pushing it with the hints for stanza 1. I misunderstood your struggle.
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:39 comment added hypern I can confirm that. Line 7 is the succession of Henry VIII by Edward VI. Line 8 are the number of alleged illegitimate 'sons' of Henry VIII, of which only Henry Fitzroy was acknowledged. (Henry had a strong desire to bare a son which is why the riddle was focused on his sons). Very difficult riddle, so you and the others have done an excellent job in working it out.
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:36 comment added Gareth McCaughan Ali: I think the three is because it was H8's third wife who bore the child who became Edward VI.
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:34 comment added Ali Line 5 = Looking for one heir to the throne. Line 6 = ended up with three heirs, a king and two queens?
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:31 history edited Gareth McCaughan CC BY-SA 3.0
six!
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:25 comment added Gareth McCaughan gtwebb: That's a clever idea, and probably right.
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:24 comment added gtwebb I think you answer line six with your answer on live 5... Found in 3(rd)
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:23 history edited Gareth McCaughan CC BY-SA 3.0
first interpretation of L5 confirmed
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:23 comment added hypern Line 6: What is three, and why is that significant given the previous line? Line 7: (Line 6 will give you this answer) Line 8 is slightly off, but the nature of Henry Fitzroys birth is the right direction...
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:22 history edited Gareth McCaughan CC BY-SA 3.0
daughters? probably not
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:20 comment added Gareth McCaughan ... Nope, only four definite ones. Two doubtful but if we count them then we probably need to add at least one more to the "five".
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:18 comment added Gareth McCaughan I suppose I should count the obvious other thing given my interpretation of line 8.
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:17 comment added Gareth McCaughan Yeah, I think I've got line 8 (without hints, as it happened) and am glad my guess for 5 was right. Still hazy on 6-7...
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:16 history edited Gareth McCaughan CC BY-SA 3.0
sons?
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:14 comment added hypern Line 12 is a hint for line 8. Lines 5-7 are somewhat related to your interpretation to line 5, of which the first sentence is correct!
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:12 history edited Gareth McCaughan CC BY-SA 3.0
years! wives?
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:12 comment added Gareth McCaughan I'm not sure why you're still giving me hints for stanza 1, which was all obvious as soon as you mentioned age. It's stanza 2 I'm confused by.
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:09 comment added Marius @GarethMcCaughan. OK one last hint about lines 2, 3, 4 :). 2 something happened at the age of 17. 3 and 4: $17 + 38 = 55$. I would include a wikipedia link here, but then that would spoil it.
Jul 12, 2016 at 15:01 comment added Gareth McCaughan Yes, all the sixes make it look like that, which is one reason I thought it was probably him in the first place. The first verse is all obvious enough given that the numbers count years, but I am still trying to get my head around the second.
Jul 12, 2016 at 14:53 comment added Marius And lines 5 to 8 (or at least some of them) might have something to do with his love life.
Jul 12, 2016 at 14:51 comment added hexomino The second verse is probably about jvirf(rot13)
Jul 12, 2016 at 14:48 comment added Gareth McCaughan ah, years, that makes some sense.
Jul 12, 2016 at 14:45 comment added Marius I think your answer is correct. And I think you can go through the details and see how they fit. I can give you a push in the right direction. The first 2 lines are about his age. Something happened at 17. The next 2 lines are also age related.
Jul 12, 2016 at 14:42 history answered Gareth McCaughan CC BY-SA 3.0